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Relax and have some winey
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Manda ele assistir o "Eurovision 2022" pra ver o que é um jogo e câmera ruim
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Ele podia morrer de verdade, depois a Galadriel abraça ele e diz "A graça que os valar deram a mim, eu repasso a ele", ou algo parecido com isso. Depois Aparece o Elrond em fade, transparências e tals, falando palavras élficas, e ele ressuscita. Tudo muito abstrato, mas bora lá, o importante é que ele tava morto e voltou.Só queria acrescentar que adorei a passagem do cavalo de Isildur se recusando a voltar sem ele.
Seria melhor se não fosse tão óbvio que ele não está morto.
Tô igual você e o jornalista da Forbes:@Kimberly Raabe vai demorar a semana inteira só pra escrever o post dela sobre esse episódio. Acho que toda cena teve algo mal feito ou sem noção...
Dei nota 6, mas mais em comparação com a nota que dei nos anteriores. A vontade era de dar um 5.
Minha cara assistindo o episódio:
rapidamente desliguei para salvar a pouca sanidade que me restava.
Isso é tão estúpido que eu quero gritar.
Conseguir um certificado Fresh é o ponto mais alto que a produção pode alcançar no site, pois precisa ser universalmente elogiada para conquistá-lo. A pontuação geral deve ser superior a 75%, sendo que cinco avaliações devem ser de veículos grandes.
Payne : Eu adoraria ver em Tolkien onde diz que Galadriel nunca foi para Númenor – isso não existe.
editado pra evitar spoilerVendo esse episódio o meu pensamento mais recorrente foi: por favor que tenham matado alguém, não deixem todo mundo vivo
Acontece que ninguém morreu…
Dito isso o núcleo dos anoes é bom demais, mas a série me deixa a desejar em um contexto geral (principalmente em roteiro e direção)
Sim, sim, foi malz. Eu não vi que estava no tópico errado.Eu estou me referindo ao 7 mesmo
Mas, na moral....de boa....Não foi dito que não, logo sim. Tolkien disse que Elfos não tinham asas e moravam dentro de botões de rosa? Ou que Anões não tinham super força e escavavam a pedra no muque? Ou talvez que humanos não tivessem poderes de invisibilidade quando queriam? Não? Logo, sim. Caímos meus amigos, e continuaremos caindo ao infinito.
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Short answer: it is strongly suggested that Galadriel did join the War of Wrath.
Long answer:
"brave women [were] capable of great military gallantry at a crisis." - Letters
Galadriel however was not only brave ("the fairest lady of the House of Finwe and the most valiant.") but she was also a warrior back then, as stated in the Letters: "She was then of Amazon disposition"
The term 'amazon' in Tolkien works is always used for warrior women (in Unfinished Tales, the Book of Lost Tales, History of Middle-earth book 7, and the Letters), and in Parma Eldalamberon 11 he even translated the word 'Amazon' into 'Gothwin' in Elvish, which in turn its literal translation is 'War Woman'.
In one version Galadriel even saves a White Ship in the Kinslaying at Alqualonde, where she "fought heroically" against Feanor. This speaks volumes about how powerful she was to save a ship, fighting against the most powerful warriors.
In another version she apparently fought sons of Feanor themselves: "[The foremost people of the host of Fingolfin] coming up found a battle joined and their own kin falling, and they rushed in ere they knew rightly the cause of the quarrel" * "Galadriel’s quarrel with the sons of Fëanor at sack of Alqualondë. How she fought…"**
*(Morgoth's Ring, Annals of Aman)
**(Nature of Middle-earth)
Anyway, one may ask 'then why she didn't fight in the Siege of Angband or Bragollach or Nirnaeth?' This question is directly answered by Tolkien himself in Unfinished Tales: she and Celeborn "did not join in the war against Angband, which they judged to be hopeless under the ban of the Valar and without their aid..."
Then Galadriel advised for a plan B (a plan to create a great alliance by building a power into eastwards and having the entire free people of Middle-earth as allies and befriending East people before Morgoth does), nobody truly listened to her and Celeborn. So it was natural for her wisdom to understand it would be useless for her to go to the North war. She knew it "to be hopeless under the ban of the Valar and without their aid..." - UT
But when Valar decided to send aid there was no hopelessness anymore for the Elves.
"Now when first Vingilot was set to sail in the seas of heaven, it rose unlocked for, glittering and bright; and the people of Middle-earth beheld it from afar and wondered, and they took it for a sign, and called it Gil-Estel, the Star of High Hope ... Then the Elves looked up, and despaired no longer; but Morgoth was filled with doubt." - Silmarillion, chapter 24
"Of the march of the host of the Valar to the north of Middle-earth little is said in any tale; for among them went none of those Elves who had dwelt and suffered in the Hither Lands, and who made the histories of those days that still are known; and tidings of these things they only learned long afterwards from their kinsfolk in Aman."
This quote does not imply that no Elves from Middle-earth participated in the War. What it do tell us is that the events of the journey, from Valinor to the battlefields in Middle-earth, were mostly unknown to the Elves of Beleriand and other regions of Middle-earth - since they were already in Middle-earth.
"But at the last Fionwë came up out of the West, and the challenge of his trumpets filled the sky; and he summoned unto him all Elves and Men from Hithlum unto the East; and Beleriand was ablaze with the glory of his arms...The meeting of the hosts of the West and of the North is named the Great Battle, the Battle Terrible, and the War of Wrath." - Lost Road
Did Galadriel answer the summons into battle? She had no reasons to do not answer the summons. The only reason she was not present in the Siege of Angband and Bragollach and Nirnaeth was because she "judged to be hopeless under the ban of the Valar and without their aid". But now that the Valar sent aid she and the other Elves "despaired no longer; but Morgoth was filled with doubt."
"Great war comes into Beleriand, and Fionwe summons all Elves, and Dwarves, and Men, and Beasts, and birds to his standards, who do not elect to fight for Morgoth." - Shaping of Middle-earth
A possibility is that Galadriel literally outright broke character and didn't answer the summons of Fionwe to ride to war against Angband, OR the more likely and logical possibility is that she acted in-character and fought against Morgoth in this war.
"Celeborn and Galadriel were not married (though betrothed) during the dreadful years of the “Battle of Wrath" " - Nature of Middle-earth
This war lasted for four dreadful decades. Morgoth was defeated in this war. And "Pride still moved her when, at the end of the Elder Days after the final overthrow of Morgoth, she refused the pardon of the Valar for all who had fought against him, and remained in Middle-earth." - Peoples of Middle-earth